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subject. 구매 금액에 맞는 레벨업 요청 해주세요 ^ ^ 구매시 2~10% 할인
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 맨샵이 구상만 하고 있던 회원등급제 할인을 이제서야 하게 되었습니다.

 

등급은

 

맨샵 People   ☆ (구매시 2%할인 )   -  맨샵에서 교환 반품을 제외한 총 구매액이 20만원 이상

 

맨샵 Brother (구매시 5% 할인 )  -  맨샵에서 교환 반품을 제외한 총 구매액이 50만원 이상

 

맨샵   Mania  ☆(구매시 10%할인)  -   맨샵에서 교환 반품을 제외한 총 구매액이 100만원 이상

 

이렇게 3등급으로 나눠지며, 혜택은 평생동안 지속 됩니다.


(오직 맨샵을통해서 구매해주신 내역만 가지고 Level Up 가능합니다 ^^

 네이버페이를 통해 구매해주신 분들은 죄송하지만 네이버페이 자체에서 혜택을

 받으셨기때문에 저희쪽에서 혜택을 드리기 어려운점 양해부탁드립니다.)

 

PG사 수수료율 때문에 현금으로만 할인이 적용됩니다.(카드 및 현금영수증은 적용 안되세요~)

 

구매에따른 적립금은 동일하게 적립해 드리니 맨샵을 지속적으로 찾아주신다면

 

기대이상의 혜택을 받으실 수 있답니다. ^ ^

 

p.s  맨샵 기존 회원 자료가 완벽하게 넘어오지 않아 확인이 안되는 분들은 20~22일 사이에 확인 가능하며

 

"나의쇼핑" 에서 주문조회 에서 구매내역확인이 가능하구요,, 교환 반품을 제외한 총 금액을 확인하신뒤

 

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 을 적어주시면 저희가 확인뒤 등급을 변경해 드리겠습니다.

 

많은 회원님들을 일일이 변경을 못해드리는점 이해 바랍니다. ^ ^;;

 

 

총 구매금액이 확인 안되시는 횐님들은 "구매금액 확인요청"을 제목에 적어 주시면

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  • 2016-10-24 01:37:04 0점
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  • 2016-10-24 01:53:05 0점
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  • 2016-10-24 03:02:18 0점
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  • 2016-10-24 07:07:43 0점
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  • 2016-10-24 07:07:56 0점
    스팸글 Blade was not nearly as sharp as any other cold steel knife or sword ive bought before
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  • 2016-10-24 09:58:51 0점
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  • 2016-10-24 10:39:33 0점
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  • 2016-10-24 15:36:24 0점
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  • 2016-10-24 15:36:32 0점
    스팸글 Well finished. Durable. I own more expensive swords and this one holds it's own. If you're after an entry level or want to have fun without risking an expensive sword than this is perfect for the backyard or the dojo.
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  • 2016-10-24 18:39:36 0점
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  • 2016-10-24 18:39:58 0점
    스팸글 This is a pretty nice sword however for the money there are better swords. When i received mine i saw on the blade that it appeared to have 2 hamons... yeah one was much more prominent than the other and its hardly noticeable and blade also looks scratchy. the tsuka was very nice and all the fittings were nice. All in all this is a good buy, you will be satisfied
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  • 2016-10-25 01:30:01 0점
    스팸글 It was everything I expected
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  • 2016-10-25 02:11:53 0점
    스팸글 Excellent better than I expected. SHARP!!! Great deal!!! It came faster than I expected and looks great Can beat for the price. I'll be looking for another one from these guys.
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  • 2016-10-25 02:12:02 0점
    스팸글 I own and have used several live blades. This one is of better construction than all but one, which cost me $1000. The blade is almost full tang and well secured with two pins. The blade is well designed with a nice long fuller and comes semi-sharp. It took little time, however, to get it sharp enough to cut hairs. I have not done any Tameshigiri with it yet but have full confidence.
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  • 2016-10-25 02:57:44 0점
    스팸글 Absolutely fabulous sword. Better product than I expected.I am looking for a short sword and tonto from the same company that produced this one!
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  • 2016-10-25 02:57:50 0점
    스팸글 It is perfect came right on time hands down precision quality, would advise anyone searching for the real crafted sword this is ok be them
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  • 2016-10-25 04:49:17 0점
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  • 2016-10-25 09:40:48 0점
    스팸글 OK, so its not a real, folded steel samurai sword. Those cost thousands, and you get what you pay for, however, compare the price to an $85 Ka-bar, and you begin to see how reasonably priced this sword is. The quality and craftsmanship of this sword is easily comparable to any mid-range, mass-produced combat knife made by companies like Ka-bar or Ontario. You are paying for a sword that is handmade with modern materials and knifemaking techniques - high carbon steel with a clay-tempered "hamon" edge. No joke, the edge is sharp enough to shave with. I plan on purchasing the matching Katana, and I already purchased 2 Mushashi style (#670) tsuba to make the set truly no-frills.
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  • 2016-10-25 13:55:23 0점
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  • 2016-10-25 13:55:34 0점
    스팸글 Wow, What a Katana. Great Balance and wicked Sharp right out of the box. Have not found a Katana this well made at the price I paid. I would recommend to anyone who is looking for a quaility Katana at a good price.
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  • 2016-10-25 15:11:58 0점
    스팸글 I have a black belt in kenjutsu (Kuki Shinden-Ryu Happo Bikenjutsu) and this is one of my favorite swords. Even though it was not manufactured in a traditional way, it is proof that modern manufacturing techniques can mass produce swords that any ancient samurai would have envied. It handles well, and cuts well. It's razor sharp and nearly indestructible.
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  • 2016-10-25 15:36:48 0점
    스팸글 I was looking for a solid, practical sword for self defense purposes. After scouring Amazon, this is where I decided to take my chances. I am VERY pleased! This sword is definitely well made. I have no doubt it will hold up if and when I need to fully utilize it's potential. Solidly sharp edge out of the box. A little heavier than I had expected, but this is my first katana. The balance is slightly forward, but has a fantastic overall feel and great look. For the price, I couldn't be happier! I have full confidence this is capable of taking an intruders arm clean off.
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  • 2016-10-25 17:10:36 0점
    스팸글 Given the price, I was a bit skeptical, but was surprised that the quality was awesome. Good weight and balance. Very sharp. Some reviews have complained that it is made in China, but the Chinese have been making swords for over 2000 years. This is a Ten Ryu katana. One of the better low price swords, since a real Japanese katana would cost between $5000 and $50,000. Dual mekugi pegs add strength so there is no looseness between the nakago and ho. The hamon doesn't appear to be etched. I did however replace the saya with a leather wrapped one that I can wear over my shoulder.
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  • 2016-10-28 23:00:21 0점
    스팸글 I spent hours going through the hundreds (thousands?) of swords offered by Amazon, attempting to find a high quality Samurai Sword that I could afford. After looking at many prospects, I saw this beauty that was hand forged and folded and less than $200. Could this be possible? It looked good and I had a good intuition about it so I took a chance and ordered it. Am I ever glad I did.
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  • 2016-10-29 07:46:08 0점
    스팸글 Wow I can't believe how sharp these blades are keep them lightly oiled to prevent rust, and store them away from children
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  • 2016-10-29 21:06:34 0점
    스팸글 It's a beautiful, looking sword ! Well crafted, and seems to be very strong. I definitely, would buy another. Be very careful though, blade is very sharp.
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  • 2016-11-01 02:07:44 0점
    스팸글 This was a Christmas gift for my nephew and it is awesome! He absolutely loves it. I think it's been 3 yrs now and it still gets lots of playtime :)
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  • 2016-11-01 02:12:16 0점
    스팸글 It's a sturdy sword. I was planning on buying the nodachi because it's heavier, but this one's weight is enough to swing it with one hand. It came as advertised, and the blade was covered with grease (is this the word?) wich is nice so it won't rust.
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  • 2016-11-01 02:16:22 0점
    스팸글 The quality for the sword is better than the sword I saw in Little Tokyo, but half of the price compare to Little Tokyo. Not bad...
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  • 2016-11-01 02:39:27 0점
    스팸글 This katana was everything I hoped for and more, it arrived on time and in excellent condition. My only complaint is that it says china on the brass plate(I forget the name, the one between the tsuba and the habaki)but that can easily be replaced. I would definitely buy from this seller again. If you're looking for a handmade sword but can't afford a paul chen, then this should be the one you choose.
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  • 2016-11-01 04:57:42 0점
    스팸글 Beautiful
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  • 2016-11-01 09:17:38 0점
    스팸글 .... it slices, it dices it minces and mixes... it's the bass oh matic '76 from Ronco pick up one today.
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  • 2016-11-01 09:17:43 0점
    스팸글 Excellent true craftsmen Superior Quality.
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  • 2016-11-01 10:38:33 0점
    스팸글 After reading the reviews and answers from other people, I placed an order to this katana nd I have to say, it is a really well made katana.
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  • 2016-11-19 01:53:13 0점
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  • 2016-11-20 06:02:46 0점
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  • 2016-11-20 17:23:23 0점
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  • 2016-11-21 05:12:42 0점
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  • 2016-11-24 02:48:55 0점
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  • 2016-11-27 19:10:21 0점
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  • 2016-11-27 23:00:56 0점
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  • 2016-11-27 23:38:52 0점
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  • 2016-11-28 00:11:34 0점
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  • 2016-11-29 10:21:26 0점
    스팸글 The blade wobble a bit when holding it sideways, but you get what you paid for. It's mostly supposed to be a decorative piece, so i honestly didn't expect it to be able to be used
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  • 2016-11-29 17:09:04 0점
    스팸글 One of the strongest blades I won that isn't truly Damascus steel, but is very close to the strength of such. This blade has a good weight to it, which makes it very easy to cut through many things given it has a sharp edge, which mine does. The design and construction are marvelous and I would definitely give this blade some consideration if you are looking for a good sword.
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  • 2016-11-29 18:41:39 0점
    스팸글 Great quality at this price.
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  • 2016-11-29 18:47:59 0점
    스팸글 Believe me...it's an outstanding sword... Worthy in every way. I've tried several other products (all more expensive), but this one is exceptional. In some months I will look for the Emperor sword. I'm just afraid of paying more forthe same or less quality.
    japanese swords http://www.trueswords.store/Sword-200-300-c13578/
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  • 2016-11-29 18:52:46 0점
    스팸글 This a nice piece and durable without the high price. Worth the money.
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  • 2016-11-30 00:39:37 0점
    스팸글 Got it as a gift for my Birthday. It is pure awesomeness!! No its not a sharp sword but its heavy and real steal meaning it can do serious damage with mild force. The detailing is amazing and the ray skin is legit. Im ready for the Zombies. I recommend it and HIGHLY recommend it for any Michonne fan!!!!
    real swords http://www.realswords.store/Wakizashi-c13681/
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  • 2016-11-30 06:16:59 0점
    스팸글 very impresed this is my first sword and i cant wait to buy another
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  • 2016-11-30 07:12:02 0점
    스팸글 As far as a practice sword I have no clue if it is a good one or not, but as a kid's toy it is great. Well my nephew loves it, but I'm not sure if my sister and brother-in-law have the same feelings. He can ninja chop whatever he wants to now and not have to worry about his sword breaking.
    katana http://www.trueswords.store/Handmade-Black-1095-Carbon-Steel-Japanese-Samurai-Katana-Sword-Very-Sharp-p424282.html
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  • 2016-11-30 07:12:13 0점
    스팸글 It's a good sword for decoration ONLY not for training or anything of the sort lol I made that retarded mistake
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  • 2016-11-30 09:33:58 0점
    스팸글 Another masterpiece from Shinwa, Well made with craftsmanship that is truly impressive. Solid and very durable with a razor sharp edge that holds up. Damascus living up to its reputation. The cost to value ratio is way off on this "ninja to" and is worth a great deal more. The memories from "Enter The Ninja" back in the 80s made my buying mind up.
    samurai katana http://www.japanesesamuraikatana.com/Clay-Tempered-Japanese-Sword-c13267/
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  • 2016-12-01 00:53:49 0점
    스팸글 Well made, very sharp! Very pleased!
    samurai sword http://www.handmadesamurai.com/1095-Steel-Samurai-Sword-c13144/
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  • 2016-12-01 05:28:22 0점
    스팸글 It is a great weapon.
    real katana http://www.bestkatana.com/1060-Steel-Katana-c13949/
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  • 2016-12-01 05:52:56 0점
    스팸글 This is the first of the Musashi Katanas in my collection. I own afew made over seas from Japan, and China. And note those that come from the Mainland in the Beautiful Country of China are as deadly as they are beautiful. those whom seriously study the Katana know its history and it coming from China says alot Not CHEAP,either. That's the orgin of the sword and other blood letting weapons. Including the Katana...
    Tanto For Sale http://www.realswords.store/Tanto-c13674/
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  • 2016-12-01 07:39:30 0점
    스팸글 Has not broken and kids love it. I have other cold steel products that are great.
    Naginata http://www.realswords.store/Naginata-c13675/
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  • 2016-12-01 08:02:19 0점
    스팸글 I was worried about the authenticity of the product as it is far cheaper than on the official musashi website and that in the pictures there is no "musashi" inscription on the gold colored metal piece above the guard. I got the free two day shipping and it promptly arrived. I was more than pleased when I took it out of the box. It was far more sturdy than i had expected and looked far better than in any picture. It did in fact come with a certificate of authenticity. I am very very satisfied with the purchase. criticisms - the piece that is supposed to have the musashi stamp does in fact have the stamp but doesn't fit, it wobbles around all the time. I'm unsure about the small oil colored lines that run throughout the blade, can't seem to wash them off but polishing may take care of that, however it may be just what the steel is supposed to look like (never owned this type of steel blade). It wasn't really that sharp at all, couldn't even cut into paper. Had to sharpen it myself and since i'm inexperienced I left some pretty gnarly scratches. It scratches extremely easily but i guess thats inevitable with something that is being used to cut things. If you want it for a display piece don't use it
    Wakizashi Sword http://www.handmadesamurai.com/JAPANESE-SAMURAI-WAKIZASHI-SWORD-FULL-TANG-BALCK-BLADE-p417594.html
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  • 2016-12-01 08:02:42 0점
    스팸글 I wanted to give this a five but soon after getting mine I noticed a scuff on hand guard taking off the dark brown color and leaving a shiny brass look but other then that nice sword good quality
    katana Sword http://www.handmadesamurai.com/HANDMADE-JAPANESE-SAMURAI-SHIRASAYA-SWORD-KATANA-BLACK-RED-FULL-TANG-BLADE-p417494.html
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  • 2016-12-16 21:04:12 0점
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  • 2016-12-20 01:47:43 0점
    스팸글 This sword is beautiful! It came promptly, is sharp, has a beautiful Hamon line, beautiful scabbard; I couldn't be happier!
    Tachi Swords http://www.bestkatana.com/Tachi-c13982/
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  • 2016-12-20 09:41:32 0점
    스팸글 Traditional katana collectors may be put off by the lack of a hamon. But don't be fooled. A hamon is not necessary with the purity and heat treatment of the modern steel. It will resist chipping better than a traditional katana as well as take more abuse from flexing pressure. Hamons have disadvantages as well and should not be there if the the reasons for having them are non-existent.
    wakizashi http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Other-Hot-c13406/
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  • 2016-12-20 13:17:36 0점
    스팸글 This was a Christmas gift purrchased for someone else. I haven't had any feedback that says he didn't like it.
    Katana for sale http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Shinken-Katana-c13147/
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  • 2016-12-20 14:52:49 0점
    스팸글 I'm no expert on swords but I really like this. Maybe there's something that I don't know that is, or will be a problem but as of right now I think it's great.....Beautiful Piece!
    Tsuka For Sale http://www.realswords.store/Tsuka-c13678/
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  • 2016-12-20 18:37:50 0점
    스팸글 This is one sweet blade! The balance and feel in your hand is awesome. I hesitated on this before buying but couldn't be happier with the purchase. All the Cold Steel quality that I expect and more!
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  • 2016-12-20 23:29:47 0점
    스팸글 Exceptional sword. It came razor sharp and after about 80 hours of use it is still in perfect condition. Good grip, weight, and leverage as well.
    true sword http://www.trueswords.store/Specials-70-OFF-c13577/
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  • 2016-12-21 02:06:02 0점
    스팸글 wellll, it's not perfect. they never are. i do not expect perfection for 320 bux. the blade has 2 or 3 small blemishes, little scratches or marks. not a big deal. if i use it a few times, i will do worse. for the most part, it looks like it has never been used. quite happy with this purchase.this is the 2nd smallest of the set. the spring sakura is the smallest(and my favorite), the other two are pretty beastly, and unwieldy. i have not bent any of them yet, and they clean up pretty easily (stay off the mirror finish part when rubbing, i accidentally dulled a few inches of mine on one of the other swords). behold, the whole dragon king 4 seasons set...
    katana blade http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Clay-Tempered-Katana-c13145/
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  • 2016-12-21 11:46:00 0점
    스팸글 Gotta say it got to me faster than anticipated, and also great quality sword no complaints about the make of it at all
    Best Sword http://www.bestkatana.com/promotion/Sword-300-500-21515/
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  • 2017-01-18 00:51:18 0점
    스팸글 First off pictures don't do this sword justice. This is a beautiful Katana. The blade is super sharp and nothing on the sword looks or feels cheap. It arrived 4 days earlier than expected. Over all I think it's a good buy for the price
    Ninja Weapons http://www.bestkatana.com/Ninja-c13951/
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  • 2017-01-18 08:19:22 0점
    스팸글 I was looking for a solid, practical sword for self defense purposes. After scouring Amazon, this is where I decided to take my chances. I am VERY pleased! This sword is definitely well made. I have no doubt it will hold up if and when I need to fully utilize it's potential. Solidly sharp edge out of the box. A little heavier than I had expected, but this is my first katana. The balance is slightly forward, but has a fantastic overall feel and great look. For the price, I couldn't be happier! I have full confidence this is capable of taking an intruders arm clean off.
    Wakizashi Sword http://www.bestkatana.com/Wakizashi-c13954/
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  • 2017-01-18 08:22:07 0점
    스팸글 Durable, looks nice, and well made. It also feels good in the hand.
    Naginata Sword http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Naginata-Swords--c13151/
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  • 2017-01-18 14:53:34 0점
    스팸글 It's a really nice sword, seems put together well,(solid). I would have given a five star if it would have had a blade that was better sharpened. The blade was sharp just not real sharp. But for the most part a - nice sword.
    samurai katana sword http://www.trueswords.store/Sword-Under-200-c13579/
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  • 2017-01-18 19:26:13 0점
    스팸글 I love this sword. So pretty. Great weight!
    best katana http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Clay-Tempered-Katana-c13145/
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  • 2017-01-19 01:29:18 0점
    스팸글 Very nice Katana, quick shipping, with engravings. Customer service excellent, very helpful
    Saya For Sale http://www.realswords.store/Saya-c13679/
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  • 2017-01-19 04:24:16 0점
    스팸글 I have many swords in my collection, right around 30 or so, with most coming from Amazon and ranging from $25 - $300 in purchase price. That collection includes everything from Whetstone to Shinwa, with both awful and awesome swords coming from Master Cutlery and United Cutlery names, with nearly all of them being katanas, ninjatos, nodachis, or zatoichis (plus a couple of FF7-style 'buster' swords). I was looking at adding a ninjato from Ten Ryu when I came across this Boker one, and I took the plunge on it instead.
    Sakabato Sword http://www.bestkatana.com/Sakabato-c14116/
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  • 2017-01-19 05:13:34 0점
    스팸글 First off, I want to say Fast shipping! I ordered from Germany and I got the item fast!!! Thanks.
    Real Tachi Sword http://www.bestkatana.com/Tachi-c13982/
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  • 2017-01-19 09:41:29 0점
    스팸글 Delivered better than expected! This was an anniversary gift for my wife and she loves it! We've been slicing melons and being a real life fruit ninja. Seriously, it's an awesome sword. Now all I need are some zombies....
    Samurai Swords http://www.japanesesamuraikatana.com/1060-Steel-Samurai-Sword-c13269/
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  • 2017-01-21 12:00:32 0점
    스팸글 This katana was everything I hoped for and more, it arrived on time and in excellent condition. My only complaint is that it says china on the brass plate(I forget the name, the one between the tsuba and the habaki)but that can easily be replaced. I would definitely buy from this seller again. If you're looking for a handmade sword but can't afford a paul chen, then this should be the one you choose.
    sakabato weapon http://www.handmadesamurai.com/SAKABATO-Swords-c13150/
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  • 2017-01-21 22:09:58 0점
    스팸글 Exceptional sword. It came razor sharp and after about 80 hours of use it is still in perfect condition. Good grip, weight, and leverage as well.
    Naginata Swords http://www.bestkatana.com/Naginata-c13955/
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  • 2017-01-22 04:46:46 0점
    스팸글 Excellent for practicing forms, katas, and stances. Very Durable, reasonable price. Very satisfied.
    Samurai Sword http://www.japanesesamuraikatana.com/1095-Steel-Samurai-Sword-c13268/
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  • 2017-01-22 05:19:22 0점
    스팸글 I grew up Hawaii a mostly Asian culture and I have wanted a great Katana for about 24 years. I have been to Japan, South Korea and China. I have looked at many shops and I have always found cheap swords that weren't worth the time or money. This sword on the other hand, is worth every dime. It is solid, well made, and I am proud to have this in my house. I'm not hating on any other brand, I have just found this sword to be worth the price. Also the artwork done on all of the prieces of this katana are crafted well. I have already ordered a wakazashi and Tanto from Ryumon to have a complete set. I know I will not be disappointed.
    real swords http://www.realswords.store/Wakizashi-c13681/
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  • 2017-01-22 07:24:34 0점
    스팸글 Amazing quality from the ancient masters of longquan!!! Worth the 600 the sword dealers get for less than half here!!! AAAAAAA+++++++++
    katana blade http://www.trueswords.store/Specials-70-OFF-c13577/
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  • 2017-01-22 11:20:07 0점
    스팸글 Got it as a gift for my Birthday. It is pure awesomeness!! No its not a sharp sword but its heavy and real steal meaning it can do serious damage with mild force. The detailing is amazing and the ray skin is legit. Im ready for the Zombies. I recommend it and HIGHLY recommend it for any Michonne fan!!!!
    sakabato weapon http://www.handmadesamurai.com/SAKABATO-Swords-c13150/
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  • 2017-01-23 02:39:48 0점
    스팸글 I just received my sword today in the mail I was super excited to get it, it seemed very well balanced and has a nice weight to it. The blade was nice and sharp to begin with and a very beautiful blade. Feels nice in my hands too.
    Swords For Sale http://www.bestkatana.com/promotion/Sword-Over-500-21516/
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  • 2017-01-23 06:20:32 0점
    스팸글 Very nice blade for the price! Was shipped faster then I expected it to be. Very happy and will be buying more later.
    Tsukas for sale http://www.japanesesamuraikatana.com/Tsukas-c13278/
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  • 2017-01-23 10:38:49 0점
    스팸글 super sharp sharper than the crease on a pair of pimp pants. plus it's super durable like a Chevy Silverado
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  • 2017-01-23 14:35:18 0점
    스팸글 This sword is beautiful! It came promptly, is sharp, has a beautiful Hamon line, beautiful scabbard; I couldn't be happier!
    Best Katana http://www.bestkatana.com/promotion/Sword-300-500-21515/
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  • 2017-01-23 16:21:30 0점
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    true swords http://www.trueswords.store/Sword-Under-200-c13579/
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  • 2017-05-09 10:29:30 0점
    스팸글 Thes Katanas were purchased as gifts for employees and were very good quality. The employees were surprised by the weight and sturdy feel of the swords. I will all by cold steel from now one.
    Best Katana http://www.bestkatana.com/promotion/Sword-200-300-21514/
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  • 2017-05-09 16:21:51 0점
    스팸글 It's legit. Balanced. Strong. And sharp. Well worth the money.
    Silver Wave Tsuba Katana http://www.bestkatana.com/Battle-Ready-Japanese-White-Katana-Silver-Wave-Tsuba-Clay-Sanmai-Blade-Sharpen-Work-Blade-p435096.html
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  • 2017-05-09 19:29:03 0점
    스팸글 Traditional katana collectors may be put off by the lack of a hamon. But don't be fooled. A hamon is not necessary with the purity and heat treatment of the modern steel. It will resist chipping better than a traditional katana as well as take more abuse from flexing pressure. Hamons have disadvantages as well and should not be there if the the reasons for having them are non-existent.
    samurai swords for sale http://www.trueswords.store/Specials-70-OFF-c13577/
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  • 2017-05-23 21:15:37 0점
    스팸글 It was exactly what i was looking for and much cheaper than what i could find on other web pages
    Nodachi weapons http://www.japanesesamuraikatana.com/Nodachi-Swords-c13778/
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  • 2017-05-23 21:46:13 0점
    스팸글 It was all I hoped for in a functional sword.
    Best Katana http://www.bestkatana.com/promotion/Sword-200-300-21514/
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  • 2017-05-23 21:54:38 0점
    스팸글 Quality, Quality, Quality!
    Ninja Sword http://www.realswords.store/Ninja-c13673/
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  • 2017-05-23 22:37:26 0점
    스팸글 I wanted to give this a five but soon after getting mine I noticed a scuff on hand guard taking off the dark brown color and leaving a shiny brass look but other then that nice sword good quality
    real sword http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Clay-Tempered-Katana-c13145/
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  • 2017-05-24 04:42:25 0점
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  • 2017-05-24 21:17:40 0점
    스팸글 Seems like a nice moderate quality sword, the reason i say moderate is this.
    samurai sword blade http://www.handmadesamurai.com/1095-Steel-Samurai-Sword-c13144/
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  • 2017-05-24 23:04:51 0점
    스팸글 beautiful sword. was NOT customized as per my request(they could have just said no, i still would have bought it), but whatever, i'll just buy more swords(probably not from this seller, tho). it is still a fine addition to my collection. on par with other swords in this price range, but barely. hamon appears to be real, as far as i can tell. beautiful, shiny finish, almost flawless. unique saya and tsuba. i got the sword in the pics and i am happy with it. it makes a LOUD chopping noise, which is very cool, but i think i would have preferred it without bo-hi, as i am more interested in devastating damage than sounding cool. i do not think this one will be getting much use in the bamboo grove.
    katana http://www.bestkatana.com/Battle-Ready-Clay-Tempered-1095-Carbon-Steel-Japanese-Katana-Dragons-Tsuba-Shark-Skin-Saya-p434499.html
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  • 2017-05-25 00:31:01 0점
    스팸글 Clean rust free sword as expected.
    handmade swords http://www.realswords.store/Clay-Tempered-Katana-c13669/
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  • 2017-05-25 00:46:59 0점
    스팸글 My husband has balance problems due to his MS but this was balanced perfectly and he has no trouble wielding it.
    Best Sword http://www.bestkatana.com/promotion/Sword-Under-200-21513/
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  • 2017-05-25 13:52:09 0점
    스팸글 SWISH! Love it, great quality, the hamon is beautifully done, everything is solid. It's a thick razor blade, you will not be disappointed.
    katanas http://www.bestkatana.com/Battle-Ready-Clay-Temnpered-T-10-Steel-Blade-Katana-Demon-Tsuba-Shark-Skin-Saya-Full-Tang-Blade-Sword-p434682.html
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  • 2017-05-25 19:25:34 0점
    스팸글 For anyone interested in buying an affordable katana, I suggest that you do some homework first. There are several major manufacturers, mostly in China, making swords these days, but quality is going to vary.
    Naginata Sword http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Naginata-Swords--c13151/
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  • 2017-05-26 04:23:14 0점
    스팸글 SWISH! Love it, great quality, the hamon is beautifully done, everything is solid. It's a thick razor blade, you will not be disappointed.
    Buy Tsuba http://www.japanesesamuraikatana.com/Tsuba-c13277/
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  • 2017-05-26 04:23:30 0점
    스팸글 Good as my $3000 Kantana and sharper
    Tanto Swords http://www.realswords.store/Tanto-c13674/
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  • 2017-05-26 04:24:47 0점
    스팸글 Seems to be extremely durable.
    Nodachi For Sale http://www.bestkatana.com/Nodachi-c13956/
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  • 2017-05-26 07:50:15 0점
    스팸글 Gotta say it got to me faster than anticipated, and also great quality sword no complaints about the make of it at all
    battle ready swords http://www.trueswords.store/Sword-Under-200-c13579/
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  • 2017-06-02 12:33:15 0점
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  • 2017-06-06 19:04:34 0점
    스팸글 After doing a lot of research on the types of steel and the way it is made, I settled on the mid range steel in this sword which is not as brittle at the higher rated steel but also maintains its edge better than the lower rated steel. This is a nice trade-off for optimal flexibility and sharpness. The sword itself came with a certificate of authenticity, which was a great touch since this made a beautiful gift for my friend.
    Shinken katana http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Shinken-Katana-c13147/
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  • 2017-06-07 00:30:38 0점
    스팸글 I purchased this for a friend of mine as a gift. The hammon is real and beautiful, the sword is solid, and much more beautiful in person than in pictures. My friend is most pleased and his co workers are jealous. A quality sword, handmade, and a reasonable price. I only wished there was a matching wakizashi... please Ryumon consider putting out a matching wakizashi please please
    katana sword for sale http://www.bestkatana.com/1095-Steel-Katana-c13948/
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  • 2017-06-07 04:57:45 0점
    스팸글 Meet all expectations. A very well made sword. Sharpens easily and holds an edge.
    Ninja http://www.realswords.store/Ninja-c13673/
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  • 2017-06-07 06:42:10 0점
    스팸글 Very nice katana. Especially for the price. For 100 dollars you cannot beat this sword. I'm not a self proclaimed master swordsman like most of the people who write these reviews, and I'm not gonna pretend like I am. That being said I don't know for sure how katanas are graded traditionally so I'm giving this one 5 stars based on how it appeals to me. Aesthetically appealing across the board. Real hamon, everything was just as advertised. It came nice and sharp, although I plan on honing it more. I cut a few tree branches with ease, and some others weren't so easy (which may have been my technique or lack thereof). I don't know if it's razor sharp or not or how to determine that, but it sliced a paper into ribbons a few times. I would buy this sword again, in fact I probably will. No blade wobble. Yes it's made in China, what isn't these days.
    samurai swords for sale http://www.trueswords.store/Specials-70-OFF-c13577/
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  • 2017-06-07 19:00:04 0점
    스팸글 WOW. Awsome item and very sharp
    real katana swords http://www.bestkatana.com/Clay-Tempered-Katana-c13947/
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  • 2017-06-07 22:11:37 0점
    스팸글 I have many Katanas and this one is my absolute favorite of all in this price ranage; and note it is a great value and should cost far more. Everything is real and it is truly combat ready. Beautiful in its simplicity. Magnificient piece of work. I bought another. Great feel. Buy! You will not be disipointed; don't try and save $20-$40 on a far lessor sword, once you hold this one you will be glad you didn't go cheap.
    japanese tanto http://www.realswords.store/Tanto-c13674/
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  • 2017-06-08 05:21:25 0점
    스팸글 my friend said it was handsdown the best gift he got this year.
    real katana for sale http://www.bestkatana.com/1095-Carbon-Steel-Iron-Tsuba-Double-Blood-Groove-Japanese-Katana-Sword-p438969.html
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  • 2017-06-08 06:03:18 0점
    스팸글 i was very impressed on the quality of this katana, its the first sword i have ever purchased and i would definitely buy from this company again. it arrived here quicker than expected and nothing was wrong with it. very, very pleased with this sword
    real katana for sale http://www.trueswords.store/Specials-70-OFF-c13577/
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  • 2017-06-08 07:02:44 0점
    스팸글 This is a sturdy katana, thicker than most blades used for tatami cutting. It is alo heavier and takes some practice to get used to, but when you are used to it, it slices through tatami mats like it is air! Very happy with it, so far no bend in it, while thinner blade katanas in use need work when hitting tatami the wrong way.
    japanese tanto http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Tanto-Swords--c13148/
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  • 2017-06-08 19:08:40 0점
    스팸글 beautiful blade awesome customer service 5 star
    katana Sword http://www.bestkatana.com/1095-Steel-Katana-c13948/
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  • 2017-06-08 23:32:09 0점
    스팸글 It's nice and solid not too heavy not too light just overall nice size and shape for one hand
    Japanese Samurai Sword http://www.bestkatana.com/41-inch-Handmade-Japanese-Samurai-Sword-Katana-AISI-1060-Steel-Very-Sharp-p438952.html
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  • 2017-06-09 04:04:37 0점
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  • 2017-06-09 06:14:43 0점
    스팸글 Walking Dead, here I come!
    Naginata http://www.realswords.store/Naginata-c13675/
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  • 2017-06-21 19:46:30 0점
    스팸글 The item is pretty much as described. very good quality. not sharp at all but im sure it would be no problem to put a edge on it. ordered it for my husband for valentines day an now thinking about getting myself one. would highly recommend this seller an katana to anyone who wants a good quality one for reasonable price.
    the samurai http://www.trueswords.store/Sword-300-500-c13580/
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  • 2017-06-21 21:10:22 0점
    스팸글 I was so impressed with the speed in which I got this and the quality was much more than I expected.
    Tachi Swords http://www.bestkatana.com/Tachi-c13982/
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  • 2017-06-21 21:39:46 0점
    스팸글 Beautiful Blade!i like it!!!
    handmade samurai swords http://www.handmadesamurai.com/1095-Steel-Samurai-Sword-c13144/
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  • 2017-06-21 22:23:28 0점
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  • 2017-06-22 02:30:18 0점
    스팸글 I love this sword. So pretty. Great weight!
    Ninja Swords http://www.realswords.store/Ninja-c13673/
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  • 2017-06-22 23:11:36 0점
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  • 2017-06-23 02:14:50 0점
    스팸글 The quality of the sword has impressed me greatly, and I was very pleased with the delivery speed.
    katana sword http://www.bestkatana.com/Hand-Forged-Japanese-Tiger-Samurai-Katana-Golden-Tsuka-Sharpened-Blade-p435087.html
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  • 2017-06-23 05:31:29 0점
    스팸글 gorgues. ...very well made...diffently worth the price
    samurai sword katana http://www.handmadesamurai.com/1095-Steel-Samurai-Sword-c13144/
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  • 2017-06-23 06:21:12 0점
    스팸글 beautiful blade awesome customer service 5 star
    Buy Saya http://www.japanesesamuraikatana.com/Saya-c13279/
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  • 2017-06-23 08:35:35 0점
    스팸글 This a nice piece and durable without the high price. Worth the money.
    real sword http://www.realswords.store/Ninja-c13673/
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  • 2017-06-28 03:57:47 0점
    스팸글 such a great purchase. I would recomend this sword to any one that likes getting nice suprises.
    samurai swords for sale http://www.bestswords.club/Clay-Tempered-Katana-c13669/
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  • 2017-06-28 07:51:49 0점
    스팸글 Had a very small rust spot. Not a big deal. It came off with 1,000 grit. Almost with the 3,000 grit Japanese Whetstone. Very happy for the price. $300.00 for a $600.00 Katana. Very sturdy, and thick. Got some weight to it as well. Girls would have a hard time if they are not strong enough. Especially if they try and use it. I give it 4.7 out of 5 stars. Must own, if you can.
    buy swords http://www.bestswords.club/1095-Steel-Katana-c13670/
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  • 2017-06-28 07:56:29 0점
    스팸글 I bought it for my brother last week and my brother like it very much!! Super good quality!!! Recommend it!!!
    real swords http://www.bestswords.club/1060-Steel-Katana-c13671/
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  • 2017-06-28 20:05:59 0점
    스팸글 Very nice! For the money this sword is the real deal.
    real sword http://www.bestswords.club/Tsuka-c13678/
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  • 2017-06-29 02:44:23 0점
    스팸글 Very nice quality.
    Naginata Sword http://www.bestswords.club/Naginata-c13675/
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  • 2017-06-29 03:21:48 0점
    스팸글 First off pictures don't do this sword justice. This is a beautiful Katana. The blade is super sharp and nothing on the sword looks or feels cheap. It arrived 4 days earlier than expected. Over all I think it's a good buy for the price
    Swords Bags For Sale http://www.bestswords.club/Swords-Bags-c13680/
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  • 2017-06-29 06:27:21 0점
    스팸글 Gotta say it got to me faster than anticipated, and also great quality sword no complaints about the make of it at all
    ninja katana http://www.bestswords.club/1060-Steel-Katana-c13671/
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  • 2017-06-29 08:42:05 0점
    스팸글 Cold Steel does it again. Everything I have bought from Cold Steel has exceeded my expectations and more. You can never go wrong with cold steel.
    Tanto http://www.bestswords.club/Tanto-c13674/
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  • 2017-06-30 04:24:54 0점
    스팸글 Wasn't expecting much at this price point but the katana delivered was very nice, pommel, tsuba, wrapping all very tight,the blade looked gorgeous as well as functional,way more sword than I need at my skill level (which is zero). Maker and seller delivered a very nice product that I am more than happy with and can display proudly. Thank you Amazon for bringing me this wonderful deal.
    real swords http://www.bestswords.club/Wakizashi-c13681/
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  • 2017-06-30 05:03:13 0점
    스팸글 I ordered this sword and was taking a big chance for me, but when it came i thought someone had made a mistake, this sword looks and feels like a much much more expensive sword.I have had all kinds of swords in my life but i've never seen one like this every detail is wonderful.
    real sword http://www.bestswords.club/Tsuba-c13677/
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  • 2017-06-30 06:02:49 0점
    스팸글 Unless your going to spend a lot more money this is hard to beat. Thinking about buying another. One day I'll spend big money but I won't have fun with it like I do with this one.
    real sword http://www.bestswords.club/Tanto-c13674/
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  • 2017-07-03 20:24:25 0점
    스팸글 Well made, very sharp! Very pleased!
    Japanese Tsuka http://www.bestswords.club/Tsuka-c13678/
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  • 2017-07-03 22:52:07 0점
    스팸글 This even came with a cleaning kit for the blade, as well as a housing cloth to hold in the sword. Not sure what that's called, but I like. Overall, a good deal.
    Samurai Katana for sale http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Samurai-Katana-Steel-c13146/
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  • 2017-07-03 23:06:06 0점
    스팸글 This katana is great! It's heavy, but feels good in your hand.Really nice looking. I'm glad I chose this one.
    black katana sword http://www.japanesesamuraikatana.com/Clay-Tempered-Japanese-Sword-c13267/
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  • 2017-07-04 03:41:47 0점
    스팸글 I don't know a lot about swords, but I did a lot of research before buying it because it was a gift. Prompt delivery, gorgeous blade, very sharp. I couldn't find anything else as good as this for the price. You could definitely find better, but you'd be paying at least hundreds of dollars more. My boyfriend was ecstatic when I gave it to him! :)
    Nodachi For Sale http://www.bestkatana.com/Nodachi-c13956/
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  • 2017-07-04 06:05:11 0점
    스팸글 It's legit. Balanced. Strong. And sharp. Well worth the money.
    real katana for sale http://www.bestswords.club/Clay-Tempered-Katana-c13669/
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    스팸글 그렇다고 합니다.====저는 이 2013년 기사를 그 당시에 링크를 올렸고오늘 '삭제되었다'는 소식을 접하였습니다.https://www.clien.net/service/board/park/10958018?po=0&od=T31&sk=&sv=&category=&groupCd=이에 다시 올립니다.유언비어 던 명예훼손 이던 기사는 기사일 뿐 입니다.“조용기 목사, 내연녀에게 15억 줬다”“조용기 목사, 내연녀에게 15억 줬다”“조용기 목사, 내연녀에게 15억 줬다”할머니 쌈짓돈, 애들 코묻은 돈, 한푼두푼 모은 헌금이누구 명품백이 되고, 반지가 되고, 목걸이가 되었을까1. 13년도에 당시 기사를 인용하여 글 올림2. 오늘 13년도의 글이 삭제되었다는 알림 받음3. 재업cf) 사이트 운영자는 명예훼손 등으로 지워달라 하면 지워줘야 한다.
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(테이프 붙임)그 뒤로는 몸에서 혈액이 빠져나가 혈액백이 담기는 모습을 볼 수 있을거야.이 과정에선 통증 보다는 간질간질한 기분이 들어과한 긴장이나 체온이 떨어지면 혈관이 수축해 통증이 유발되니까 편하게 쉬면서 과자나 까먹구.각 자리에 비치 된 담요를 덮고 편안한 마음으로 헌혈 후 주의사항 안내를 읽거나 누워있으면 혈관에서 혈액이 원활히 빠져나가 혈액백에 다 담기고!이후 간호사가 주사바늘을 빼고 지혈을 실시할거야.▲ 지혈은 문지르지 말고 "꾹" 누르세요주사바늘이 빠지면 해당 부위를 압박 지혈을 하게 돼엄지손가락으로 꾸욱 눌렀다가 압박대를 두르는 식인데헌혈 부위를 문지르게 되면 출혈이 일어나 조직에 스며들어 멍이 들 수 있으니 꼭! 문지르지 말고 눌러줘야해.주사과정이나 지혈과정이 제대로 이루어지지 않을 경우팔이 멍으로 그라데이션 되는 경우가 있는데1~2주 내로 사라지기 때문에 걱정 할 필요는 없지만 (건강에도 문제 음슴)이것도 비주얼이 -_-;; 살벌해서 좀 심난할거야.3. 헌혈 후 충분한 휴식이 필요 합니다.좋은 마음으로 헌혈 했는데 아프면 안되겠지?헌혈 후 발생할 수 있는 문제는 어떤 게 있을까.나도 헌혈자이기 전에 건강에 관심이 많아 이것저것 찾아봤어.의학계 뿐 만 아니라 적십자에서도 안전한 헌혈을 위해 끊임없이 연구와 개선을 지속하고 있어.물론 그럼에도 불구하고 부작용이 발생할 수 있지.실제로 2011년 대한적십자사가 보건복지위에 제출한 내부 문건에 따르면 2010년 기준 2,407건의 헌혈 후유증이 확인 됐어이는 2010년 전체 헌혈실적 2,664,492건의 0.09%에 해당 되는 숫자이며 주요한 증상은 멍(bruise)이 들거나 약간의 통증(sore arm), 피로감(fatigue)과 혈관미주반응(vasovagal reaction).헌혈로 인해 가장 위험한 경우는 어지러움증으로 쓰러져 부상을 입는 경우니까헌혈 끝나면 꼭 누워서 쉬고, 그 다음에 휴식공간에서 음료/과자 먹으면서 좀 더 쉬어주길 바라.참고로 연구자료들을 살펴보면 후유증은 개인헌혈 보다 단체헌혈(버스 등에서 실시하는)에서 상대적으로 더 많았는데헌혈 후 휴식을 제대로 취하지 않는 경우가 많아서 그런 것으로 추측하고 있어("멍"이 가장 흔한 증상이다. / Newman BH, 2004)2004년 미국 적십자의 Newman.BH라는 사람도 헌혈 후 생길 수 있는 부작용에 대해 연구 했는데(Blood donor complications after whole-blood donation, Newman BH,2004). 역시 헌혈한 자리에 멍이 들거나 통증이 생기고, 혈관미주반응이 발생한 경우가 가장 많이 나타났어(나눔도 중요하지만 헌혈자의 건강이 최우선)이러한 후유증은 대부분 충분한 휴식(헌혈 후 15분 가량)을 통해 최소화 할 수 있고1~2주 안에 해소되는 비교적 간단한 문제야.헌혈로 인한 후유증 발생 가능성은 매우 낮아.하지만 확률이라도 받아들이는 사람들에 따라 느끼는 위험이 다르고 또 바늘이 혈관에 꽂히는 통증은 주관적이고 실제적 이기 때문에모두에게 "전혀 아프지 않다"고 말할 순 없어.하지만 헌혈의 본질은 자기희생을 통한 이타적 봉사기 때문에주사바늘의 따끔함과 약간의 피로를 충분히 감수할 만 한 멋진 일이야.의학적으로 출혈은 약 750ml를 기준으로 하는데(성인 남성 기준)대부분의 논문에선 이때의 임상적 증상도 "경미하다"고 표현을 해.(Responses to Initial Fluid Resuscitation, Committee on Trauma, American College of Surgeons. 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    스팸글 1. 냉혈점에 아이스팩 올리기한무당이 하는 소리라 별로 믿음이 안가지만...시원하게 하는 혈자리가 있다고함저렇게 3군데 혈자리에 아이스팩을 올려놓고 체온차이 실험을 해봄실험해보니까 저렇게 차이가 난다고 한다 머 믿거나 말거나 2.  선풍기 시원하게쓰는 비법 저렇게 맥주캔을 모터에 테이프로 붙이면 모터 열을 알루미늄 캔이 빨아들인다고 한다 컴퓨터 cpu에 방열판같은? 역할인듯효과가 있을지 믿음이 안가긴 하는데 그래서 온도를 재봄무려 12도 정도 차이가 나는것 같다.  붙이고 몇분 안지났을때 측정했었음모터 열을 이걸로 잡고다음은 저런 바구니를 선풍기에 걸라고 한다그리고 나서 아이스팩 담기3. 시원한 선풍기 고르는 방법 5엽 날개와 3엽 날개로 비교 실험 풍속 측정가장 좋은 선택은 ?에어컨 없어서 힘들어하는 게이들 많아보여서 방송보고 스샷찍어서 작성해봄 ㅎ난 에어컨이 있는 원룸이라 안해봤는데게이들이 해보고 진짜 시원해지는지 좀 알려주라 그리고 아이스팩은 요즘 같은 날씨에 인터넷으로 머 시키면 두어개씩 잘 딸려오더라 돈주고 굳이 살필요없다[출처] 저렴하게 체감온도 내리는 방법[링크] http://www.ilbe.com/9888708045
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  • 2017-07-19 05:14:26 0점
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  • 2017-07-19 07:11:26 0점
    스팸글 I haven't tested this sword yet, but it seem like the craftsmanship is very nice and durable for intermediate price tag. Im satisfied with this purchased and I'm happy that I have a decent katana sword for my first time collection..I would recommend this to anyone interested for 1st time sword buyer who can't afford the handmade Japanese sword.
    Naginata http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Naginata-Swords--c13151/
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  • 2017-07-21 10:06:01 0점
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  • 2017-07-27 01:34:36 0점
    스팸글 What can i say, This is a true katana. Very well made. No loose fittings and razor sharp. Super fast shipping and great packaging. Cut right through tatami mats with ease. This ia a real sword, not a cheap wall hanger. Thank you.
    Swords Bags For Sale http://www.bestswords.club/Swords-Bags-c13680/
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  • 2017-08-01 00:08:48 0점
    스팸글 Fantastic Musashi feels and handels great and is well balanced
    best katana http://www.trueswords.store/Specials-70-OFF-c13577/
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  • 2017-08-01 01:54:03 0점
    스팸글 this is a fine weapon. It came sharp as a razor from the factory, still wrapped and oiled. The saya is wooden, no rattle and the sword will not fall out under duress. The hamon is real, not wire brushed, as other reviewers have stated. I agree with the previous poster, this is no toy. The Blade is undamaged after cutting the box it came in into slithers, and then a bleach bottle filled with water clean in half in one clean stroke. In practiced hands, this katana could make an attacker, or would be attacker, wish they hadn't crossed you in the first place. Zombies would fall in droves before the might of this blade!!!
    Saya For Sale http://www.bestswords.club/Saya-c13679/
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  • 2017-08-01 04:01:50 0점
    스팸글 Even though the black paint isn't the way it looks in the picture it's still the durable, sharp, heavy, blade I was hoping it would be :D
    short Sword http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Wakizashi-Swords-c13149/
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  • 2017-08-01 08:25:34 0점
    스팸글 bought this katana along with 5 others (3 from LQ-Swords) Customer service is great, the swords are amazing and i look forward to buting more swords from this seller.
    Best Japanese Sword http://www.bestkatana.com/promotion/Sword-200-300-21514/
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  • 2017-08-05 00:58:03 0점
    스팸글 Seems like a nice moderate quality sword, the reason i say moderate is this.
    katana for sale http://www.bestkatana.com/41-Inch-Handmade-Japanese-Samurai-Sword-Katana-Folded-Steel-Blade-Hawk-Brass-Tsuba-Very-Sharp-p438732.html
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  • 2017-08-05 04:13:20 0점
    스팸글 It may be a replica but it's a nice one and ranks higher than other swords I've bought. Decent edge. The ronin-02 has the best edge of mine for the three but I like my collection to have different looking swords or at least saya/tsukas so this was necessary to add to the collection.
    Ninja Weapons http://www.bestkatana.com/Ninja-c13951/
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  • 2017-08-05 04:25:18 0점
    스팸글 The blade is of excellent quality. Only the fittings are cheaply made. Everything else is top notch. The blade is sharp stong and heavy.. It is truly a weapon to behold. I love it.
    Tanto Sword http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Tanto-Swords--c13148/
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  • 2017-08-07 20:12:18 0점
    스팸글 Had a very small rust spot. Not a big deal. It came off with 1,000 grit. Almost with the 3,000 grit Japanese Whetstone. Very happy for the price. $300.00 for a $600.00 Katana. Very sturdy, and thick. Got some weight to it as well. Girls would have a hard time if they are not strong enough. Especially if they try and use it. I give it 4.7 out of 5 stars. Must own, if you can.
    Nodachi weapons http://www.bestswords.club/Nodachi-c13779/
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  • 2017-08-07 20:21:20 0점
    스팸글 I purchased this Katana to protect myself from zombies. You can imagine my disappointment when shipping was so slow that zombies had killed my whole family before it finally got to me. However, when it finally got here I was very impressed with the attention to detail. It is very sharp and light weight. The colors are beautiful. I have already used it to kill 7 zombies. One of which was the UPS man who had me sign for it. I didn't get a good look at him before I struck, but he appears to have turned back into a human after my fatal blow. I am currently hiding in a window well and spying on the zombies to learn their ways. When the time is right, I will strike. 5/5 would buy again!
    samurai katana swords for sale http://www.bestswords.club/Clay-Tempered-Katana-c13669/
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  • 2017-08-07 20:40:20 0점
    스팸글 Great sword, but not the sharpest, need to buy a whetstone with it
    samurai swords for sale http://www.bestswords.club/Clay-Tempered-Katana-c13669/
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  • 2017-08-08 05:32:08 0점
    스팸글 Alright.. As a outdoor survivalist/hunter I've had the pleasure of trying many different kinds of blades of all kinds. This particular sword has impressed alot so far. The wrapping is tight, the blade is sharp and the quality of steel is outstanding. My first attempt at a cut was a milk jug I had filled with water... Thinking I needed a fast strong cut I swung fairly hard only to think I had missed. The blade cut so smooth through the bottle (starting at the handle) I didn't even feel it connect with the bottle. Not sure if its luck but the first cut I did left no water on the blade, I thought that was pretty cool. I've handled many katanas and blades and ill tell you this one has an intimidation factor. Even if you are familiar with swords be mindful this one has a slightly different shape than traditional katanas. This is NOT A TOY. I'm very pleased and recommend this for collectors and someone looking for a SOLID beginner battle ready weapon. After several tests with meat/bone believe this to be an excellent choice for defense. I live in the mountains where there are wolves and mountain lions and I feel confident this would put an aggressive animal down easily. The handling is a bit blade heavy but the handle is long enough to have a comfortable swing with alot of blade side leverage to cleave with ease. Again, highly recommended.
    best katana http://www.trueswords.store/Specials-70-OFF-c13577/
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  • 2017-08-08 05:48:36 0점
    스팸글 The sword is beautiful, very well made and sharp. The weight is very good distributed. It looks amazing on my living room
    SAKABATO Sword http://www.handmadesamurai.com/SAKABATO-Swords-c13150/
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  • 2017-08-09 18:20:07 0점
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  • 2017-08-09 19:36:36 0점
    스팸글 The sword is very nice and I was so glad that it came with a maintenance cleaning kit I was so glad!
    ray skin saya http://www.bestswords.club/Saya-c13679/
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  • 2017-08-09 23:02:05 0점
    스팸글 Its cold steel. Nuff said
    japanese sword http://www.bestswords.club/1060-Steel-Katana-c13671/
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  • 2017-08-10 01:34:20 0점
    스팸글 I have had this wakizashi for a week. Excellent blade! Very well made. LQ- Swords is a great place. Shipping fast and uncomplicated. Thanks L-Q
    true swords http://www.trueswords.store/Sword-Over-500-c13590/
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  • 2017-08-10 03:04:42 0점
    스팸글 except for some plastic on the sheath... looks like good quality, unless you look close... Great decoration!! Comes with a basic stand, also not bad.
    katana sword http://www.bestkatana.com/1060-Steel-Katana-c13949/
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  • 2017-08-10 04:10:52 0점
    스팸글 A beast of a sword. Has a natural feel when cutting. The weight of the sword does the work, putting power behind it is optional.
    Tanto Sword http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Tanto-Swords--c13148/
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  • 2017-08-10 05:39:46 0점
    스팸글 After reading the reviews and answers from other people, I placed an order to this katana nd I have to say, it is a really well made katana.
    Japanese Katana http://www.bestkatana.com/Battle-Ready-Kill-Bill-Sword-Clay-Tempered-Full-Tang-Blade-Japanese-Katana-Very-Sharp-p438720.html
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  • 2017-08-10 20:14:39 0점
    스팸글 A nearly flawless reproduction of the Dotanuki. A piece of quality military art and history.
    Wakizashi Sword http://www.bestkatana.com/Wakizashi-c13954/
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  • 2017-08-10 23:40:28 0점
    스팸글 I like it, I like it alot. very sturdy and heavy sword. I think I will cut alot of pig carcasses with this sword!!
    real swords http://www.trueswords.store/Sword-200-300-c13578/
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  • 2017-08-11 00:03:09 0점
    스팸글 its a great eye catcher display piece, but the only thing is the saya isn't a tight fit, but other than that its great
    real sword http://www.bestswords.club/Ninja-c13673/
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  • 2017-08-11 02:21:53 0점
    스팸글 Excellent workmanship! Top notch.
    katana SAKABATO http://www.handmadesamurai.com/SAKABATO-Swords-c13150/
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  • 2017-08-11 06:08:32 0점
    스팸글 Beautiful sword! Overall, I was very happy with it when it came in the mail today. It's sharp, solid, and an overall good quality sword.
    Real Ninja Swords http://www.bestkatana.com/Battle-Ready-Full-Tang-Blade-Quenched-9260-Spring-Steel-Black-Ninja-Cyclone-Tsuba-Sword-Can-Cut-Tree-p438182.html
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  • 2017-08-11 07:05:46 0점
    스팸글 Super sharp out of the box, well packaged , beautiful sword.
    samurai in japanese http://www.bestswords.club/Folded-Steel-Katana-c13672/
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  • 2017-08-27 10:20:13 0점
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  • 2017-09-04 23:08:20 0점
    스팸글 I own and have used several live blades. This one is of better construction than all but one, which cost me $1000. The blade is almost full tang and well secured with two pins. The blade is well designed with a nice long fuller and comes semi-sharp. It took little time, however, to get it sharp enough to cut hairs. I have not done any Tameshigiri with it yet but have full confidence.
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  • 2017-09-05 01:42:50 0점
    스팸글 Awesome love it ..thank you so much ...
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  • 2017-09-05 02:12:22 0점
    스팸글 Great sword sharp durable goodbye
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  • 2017-09-05 03:58:10 0점
    스팸글 basically, if you know how to care for a sword or how to use them properly and not mistreat them, this one will last for a really long time. sharpness and durability, all amazing! i would definitely recommend this katana.
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  • 2017-09-05 19:32:34 0점
    스팸글 A beautiful well made product.
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  • 2017-09-05 21:01:22 0점
    스팸글 its a great eye catcher display piece, but the only thing is the saya isn't a tight fit, but other than that its great
    Nodachi sword http://www.japaneseswords.club/Nodachi-Swords-c13778/
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  • 2017-09-06 01:03:48 0점
    스팸글 This is a pretty nice sword however for the money there are better swords. When i received mine i saw on the blade that it appeared to have 2 hamons... yeah one was much more prominent than the other and its hardly noticeable and blade also looks scratchy. the tsuka was very nice and all the fittings were nice. All in all this is a good buy, you will be satisfied
    cold steel katana http://www.handmadesamurai.com/Samurai-Katana-Steel-c13146/
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  • 2017-09-06 01:04:06 0점
    스팸글 I Bought this Sword set a couple weeks ago for my friend for christmas. i was amazed by how sharp they were and the overall design of the blades.
    samurai swords http://www.trueswords.store/Sword-Under-200-c13579/
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  • 2017-09-06 05:36:28 0점
    스팸글 Received it yesterday and was blown away from it's appearance. I saw the layers on the sword that made it really stand out. Well balanced and sharp. Really a truly, beautiful while a fully functional and a battle ready sword. I would recommend getting this katana to anyone....5 stars all the way.
    Buy Tsukas http://www.japaneseswords.club/Tsukas-c13278/
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  • 2017-09-06 07:26:17 0점
    스팸글 I really felt like I was taking a flyer, buying this sword from this site
    Swords Bag http://www.japaneseswords.club/Swords-Bags-c13276/
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  • 2017-09-06 19:44:45 0점
    스팸글 The sword body and handle are in good proportion.
    ninja weapons http://www.japaneseswords.club/Ninja-Swords-c13272/
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  • 2017-09-06 21:34:51 0점
    스팸글 Good beginner sword. Perfect sword for display. Let's be honest, no need to spend $$$ for a samurai sword that you will never use. And if you do practice samurai fighting, you wouldn't be looking on amazon for one. It is well made.
    tactical wakizhasi http://www.japaneseswords.club/Wakizashi-Swords-c13271/
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  • 2017-09-07 01:44:22 0점
    스팸글 It sits proudly on my head board unless I am practicing with it. Well balanced and constructed. I bought it used and have no complaints. Cold Steel makes good stuff, if only it was made in the USA it would be better.
    chinese dao http://www.japaneseswords.club/Chinese-Swords-c13275/
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  • 2017-09-07 04:00:16 0점
    스팸글 .... it slices, it dices it minces and mixes... it's the bass oh matic '76 from Ronco pick up one today.
    katana Saya http://www.japaneseswords.club/Saya-c13279/
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  • 2017-09-13 00:35:56 0점
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  • 2017-09-13 20:23:22 0점
    스팸글 This katana was everything I hoped for and more, it arrived on time and in excellent condition. My only complaint is that it says china on the brass plate(I forget the name, the one between the tsuba and the habaki)but that can easily be replaced. I would definitely buy from this seller again. If you're looking for a handmade sword but can't afford a paul chen, then this should be the one you choose.
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  • 2017-09-13 20:42:18 0점
    스팸글 Sharp, quality, and attractive, Full hilt, feels sturdy in both hands.
    short Sword http://www.japaneseswords.club/Wakizashi-Swords-c13271/
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  • 2017-09-13 23:11:39 0점
    스팸글 EXCELLENT QUALITY- FAST SERVICE-EXCELLENT DISPLAY ITEM- ALSO FUNCTIONAL
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  • 2017-09-13 23:36:57 0점
    스팸글 LOVE this sword. very sharp looking, and to the touch
    Chinese Sword http://www.bestswords.club/Chinese-Sword-c13676/
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  • 2017-09-14 06:41:13 0점
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  • 2017-09-14 07:08:48 0점
    스팸글 Awesome sword! Cold Steel is outstanding!!
    Wakizashi Sword for sale http://www.japaneseswords.club/Wakizashi-Swords-c13271/
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